[croes]

Just ask yourself why the UN lacks the power to do anything without permission by the big players.

[_hilro]

Because sovereign nations and their citizens aren't going to kowtow to some unelected supranational organisation?

7 billion people in the world and they should all be ruled by a bunch of bureaucrats???

I hope that day never comes.

[croes]

Sure, how to you explain the WTO and the IMF? 7 billion people in the world are already ruled by a bunch of bureaucrats. But it's ok if it's for profit and not human rights, I guess.

[snapcaster]

I think both are bad. Have you ever met someone who dislikes the UN but loves the WTO and IMF? I think you're arguing against a strawman with this comment

[croes]

I don't think so. The US and the EU seldom have a problem following the WTO or the IMF, but hardly do the same with the UN.

[refurb]

Well IMF is entirely voluntary. They can recommend courses of action but the country can decide to pursue that course or not.

For WTO, no army is going to invade because you didn’t remove tariffs.