[zaik]

What if we made a Internet Standard for messaging and presence?

[nobody9999]

>What if we made a Internet Standard for messaging and presence?

That's a wonderful idea. In fact, we've had such a standard since 1999 (protocol codified in 2004[0])

It's called XMPP[1]

[0] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3920.txt

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP

[wtetzner]

Not only that, but a lot of closed messaging platforms were originally built on XMPP.

[hnlmorg]

There's been a few open standards. The problem isn't that standards exist, it's that walled gardens are generally more profitable.

In fact Google Talk, Facebook Messenger and Skype were all either based upon, or supported XMPP...and now don't. Slack used to support IRC and not doesn't. There's a term often credited to Microsoft that also applies here: embrace, extend, extinguish.

[javagram]

SMS, MMS, and RCS are examples of such standards, although only SMS/MMS have full support on both iphone and android.