[Someone1234]

It surprises and disappoints me to see them making all of Windows Vista's mistakes again.

Four months public beta wherein they fixed almost none of the major problems. Listened to almost none of the user feedback. Massive inconsistencies and half complete ideas abound.

This isn't the worst Windows I've tried, but it is perhaps the worst RTM. If this was still in public beta I'd call it "serviceable" as a daily driver if you can deal with the quirks.

But RTM-ing this? Shipping new computers with an even buggier build than the latest? Ouch. My barely computer-literate relatives should not walk into a Costco and out with a computer with this initial experience.

[dangus]

Do you have any examples of specific things that aren't working for you?

I don't even think Windows 11 is all that different from a regular feature update similar to the ones that Windows 10 has been receiving for years now. It has the Windows 11 name because some visible UI changes have been made. Other than that, it's really the same OS as Windows 10 in the grand scheme of things.

Heck, Microsoft probably just fell into "doing whatever Apple is doing" by moving their OS from version 10 to 11 just because that's what macOS did.

To me the only thing about Windows 11 that resembles Windows Vista are the vague complaints revolving around people's cheese being moved (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese%3F).

[Someone1234]

I'd point to this thread from 10 days ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/pugqvj/after_3_m...

> I don't even think Windows 11 is all that different from a regular feature update similar to the ones that Windows 10 has been receiving for years now. It has the Windows 11 name because some large and obvious UI changes have been made.

So it is just a regular feature update except all the big and breaking changes. I feel like this is a point that defeats itself.

> only thing about Windows 11 that resembles Windows Vista are the vague complaints

I was specifically referring to Microsoft shipping an OS that didn't have enough time in the public test phase and thus shipped with bugs/quirks/issues. That could refer to both Vista and 11.

> If everything else was the same and this was a Windows 10 feature update instead of "Windows 11"

I'd instead be lambasting it for both its bugs/quirks/incompleteness AND how inappropriate it is to ship major breaking changes in a feature update.

To be honest the argument that Microsoft ships feature updates this bad is inaccurate but also quite funny as a "defense."

[yread]

> I'd point to this thread from 10 days ago:

I think you've posted the wrong link by mistake. This one is just a bunch of people saying "it's not ready" and "who moved my cheese". What are the bugs?

EDIT: perhaps this would be more informative https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-is-now-widely-avail...

[nojito]

On the flipside. I've been on Windows 11 since July and it has been great.