[spyspy]

> apps won't accept an error for an answer and start retrying, sometimes aggressively

I'm certainly guilt of this. Retries make the world go round, and round again. I've been given attitude by teams that own downstream services.

Them: "Why are you retrying so aggressively?" Me: "Why is your service so damn flakey?"

[throw0101a]

> Retries make the world go round, and round again.

Depends on the rate I would think:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_backoff

[yesbabyyes]

Surely they are upstream from you if they need to rate limit you?

(And that sounds like you giving, rather than being given, attitude.)