[samhw]

I'm happy to have a discussion if you're willing to accept that kratom is addictive.

Suggesting that the 25k kratom addicts on that subreddit all took fentanyl-laced kratom, and kratom itself is absolutely non-addictive, is delusional nonsense which I'm not going to engage with.

If you want to engage on the basis of reality, I'm very happy to chat. I think you'll find I'm a hell of a lot more open to healthy opioid use than 99% of the people you'll find on this planet, but I'm not going to enable you in your delusions.

[goldenkey]

I don't deny it being addictive. It's just not as addictive as the prescription opioids. I'm sure a lot of those users on /r/quittingkratom just took too much of it and dug a hole too deep. What exactly do you hope to accomplish here? I am not telling people to do kratom for fun. All I really stated was that it's a good alternative to prescription painkillers. Which I really do believe based on my own experience as a pre-med student and as a chronic pain patient myself.