[lmm]

If it's 5 bucks then it's not going to stop care homes calling them either. If you look at the numbers being thrown around in these discussions we're talking about maybe 5k or more, which can definitely be a life-changing amount for a poor person.

[fighterpilot]

Then don't fine poor people. Fine private care homes only as was suggested elsewhere in this thread. In the article it explains that they're only considering a fee for facilities, not for individuals.

[cratermoon]

> Then don't fine poor people

Means-testing for public services? Please no. Means testing introduces bureaucratic hurdles, and the cost of determining and enforcing means limits can be up to 10x the actual amounts paid out. https://www.theguardian.com/social-care-network/2013/jan/14/...

[fighterpilot]

I dislike means testing as much as anyone, but a simple test of "are you a private business/facility with more than 1 employee" is one that I could get behind due to its inherently low bureaucratic overhead.