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by canarypilot 1718 days ago
The downvotes are likely because you’ve made an outlandish claim that is unlikely to hold up to investigation - that America admits more immigrants than the population of some democracies that criticise it.

Total estimated population of unauthorised migrants in the US is around 11.4 million and declining (around 3% of population). 310,000 unauthorised migrants arrive in a year https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/immigra...

It looks like somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 people each year step to the next stage of their path to naturalisation in the US, this is probably the most reasonable way to count migrants. https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/special-reports/l...

That would give a total of around 500,000 migrants a year, the population of the smallest G8 country (Canada) is around 38 million.

The only way to get close to Canada’s population is to take the all-time estimated immigrant population (around 45 million, or 13.7% of population).

The closest you can get with the present-tense “admits” rather than “over 60 years has admitted” is to take all I-94 entries, which are explicitly non-immigrant entries, include tourists and office-visit visas, and would not be part of any welfare state.

There is no need to invent a perpetual motion machine to support people who are (broadly) supporting themselves (if through a legal migration route) or whose total size accounting for deaths and those who leave by choice is stable (if through an unauthorised route).

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500,000 migrants per year? 1 million get US citizenship each year.
You are right, I’ve read a quarter’s numbers as the numbers for the year in the naturalisation source. Multiply my estimates for lawful naturalisation by 4 and get to between 400,000 and 800,000 (backed up by 2017-2019 data https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/immigra... ). That’s still a long way short of the population of Canada (and you have overshot by a bit).