[jseban]

Yeah and there are many blue collar jobs where workers have way more integrity and respect, and where the managers are actually (held) accountable. Being a software developer is pretty spineless in comparison, even though you make more money and get to sit on your ass. I think it's unhealthy and causes burnout.

Edit: that's why people make FIRE exists and start physical jobs instead, become farmers etc, it's not as simple as a job being hard or easy, but stressful, irrational, alienating and in other ways unhealthy that doesn't necessarily make it obviously "hard".

[mywittyname]

I'd say my desire for a physical job post-engineering comes from an innate desire to build physical objects. Building software doesn't really press all the buttons.

I mean, I love my job, but I still plan to FIRE and become a machinist or something.

[redisman]

People make fire exits.. because they can. All jobs suck if you prize freedom. I’d probably do more gardening in fire but I could never fire on a similar load of work in a gardening job.