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by kayone 1723 days ago
most things you mention are mandated by the government, you can't sell a car in any western market without tire pressure monitoring, stability control, back up camera etc.

the manufacturers have no choice, it would be like suggesting they sell cars without seatbelts.

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I hate tire pressure sensors, they are amazingly flaky and makes you uneasy about driving. That and the stupid alarms in my car that informs me that the temperature is below 4 degrees, it disturbs my driving.
You should be uneasy about driving.

For most people, it’s the most dangerous thing you will do today. If you are going to kill someone, it’s with your car.

But I don’t need flaky sensors alert me of no existing problem. That just makes everything worse.
False positives are annoying, but not knowing about a true positive is fatal.
Back up cameras are not mandatory until May 2022 in the EU.
Cars designed at least three years before they are shipped - so May 2022 might as well be tomorrow in car time.
Ah. Not only does our car (VW from 2016) not have one, I don't think I have ever been in a car that had a backup camera.

Reading in this thread that it's impossible to even buy a car without it is very surprising to me.

We're already only a few months away from 2022, most (if not all) carmakers present on the EU market have included back-up cameras in their vehicles. I know that my brother's Dacia Logan built in 2019 already had one.
Backup cameras have been an optional extra for a long time sure, but I don't think I'm aware of any car that actually comes standard with one. Well, maybe a Mercedes-Benz S-Class. I do have a backup camera in my 10-year-old Benz, but I imagine that the original owner paid a four-digit amount of euros for it back in the day.
'Rear Visibility' is required in new cars in US by FMVSS 111. Test procedure mandates field of view to rear of vehicles during backing, that are practical to satisfy with cameras. mirrors would require like a periscope to satisfy.
Yeah, but the US isn't the EU.
I have a 2016 Hyundai Accent. Unless the law is very new my car has no backup camera or much else. I'm sure there's an emergency tire pressure sensor but that's about it. Not much to my car.
You're pretty much right before the cut-off. The rule/law in the US kicked in in mid-2018.