[soneca]

I think bigger house and nicer holidays are mere examples of what to do with more money. There is no point in comparing them in particular with the effects of working inanities team. The good thing about money is that it buys you freedom to do whatever you think is worth.

For example, I know people that look for higher paying jobs so they can work 2 years and not work 1 year. So the “spending 8 hours a day with a team” calculation is very different. You are looking for a higher paying job precisely to not need to spend 8 hours with people working. Which kind of applies to everyone when you give the option to retire earlier and have good money to take care of themselves and their family when old. You are earning ore to work less.

Lastly, you seem to apply a correlation between higher paying jobs and not liking people I your team. In my opinion, there is zero correlation. So leaving a job for a higher pay doesn’t mean at all that you will find a team that you enjoy less working with. The chance of actually enjoying more is just the same.

If you happen to find yourself in a team that makes you unhappy, but all means, leave immediately. But not changing jobs to a earn more because tou are afraid it will be a team that you will enjoy less working is the wrong thing to do.

I think looking for a higher pay (be it by negotiating promotions in the same company or by changing jobs) is almost always the right choice. And I do not mean in the “greedy” sense, I mean that is a very effective way to achieve more happiness.

[danjac]

The thing is though that higher pay, at least where I live, entails considerably higher taxes. "Fuck you" money is never going to be a possibility, outside of winning a lottery ticket or coming into an inheritance. Friends/relations I know who have at least a slim possibility of a comfortable retirement aren't necessarily those with high salaries - they've just been able to play the property market with sufficient skill/luck over the past couple decades juggling buy-to-rent mortgages & inheriting houses at the right time.

So I could jump ship for a 10-15% raise, my take-home after taxes would be maybe an extra few hundred a month. Nice, yes, maybe I can have a slightly nicer HDTV or slightly bigger apartment or stay in a nicer hotel when I go on holiday, but I'm still chained to a laptop for the foreseeable future, even if I save every penny instead of buying nicer things.

[TheCoelacanth]

10-15% is a pretty low raise for changing jobs. A lot of people who have stayed at the same job for multiple years without significant raises can get more like 50-100%.