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by outlog 1716 days ago
“Good artists borrow, great artists steal.”

- Steve Jobs/Picasso/Stravinsky/Eliot

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And in my opinion this is some fuckery between consenting adults.
This quote doesn't have anything to do with literal theft, though:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/

Depends on your outlook towards intellectual property
If the "theft" from this quote counts as IP violation then all new inventions and creations become illegal and all progress would cease. I don't think that kind of outlook makes sense.
- jareklupinski
To be clear, they're talking about ideas and the adaptation of those ideas, not literally stealing cash or property.

“Good artists borrow [by modifying ideas], great artists steal [by copying ideas].”

The stealing part doesn't refer to directly copying ideas (I mean what great artist would do that?), more how good artists instead are able to use other works as inspiration, "make it their own" and put their spin on it.
All great artists directly copy ideas. That is exactly what the statement implies. The point is that your own style will manifest as a mishmash of other people's ideas and this itself will constitute a new style. New ideas are just combinations of old ideas
The way I always understood it is that good artists put their spin on it.

Great artists realize perfection when they see it and just copy it, without trying to “improve” it, usually from lesser known, less successful artists so they get away with it.

Right. In Jobs world, that meant stuff like taking existing Chinese tech and making it into something with worldwide wow/cool factor.
You got me curious. Which Chinese tech did he steal to make the iProducts with?
> Jobs world, that meant stuff like taking existing Chinese tech

It was a reference to Apple apocryphally stealing "the mouse, windows, icons, and other technologies that had been developed at [Xerox] PARC" [1].

They didn't copy an existing product. They deprived Xerox of the market into which to launch their own product.

[1] https://web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/sites/mac/parc.html

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