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by WalterBright 1723 days ago
> The products should not have a built-in time-bomb that causes them to stop working after only a few years.

First Turtle Beach bricked my Audiotron by abandoning the web site required for it to function, then Grace Digital bricked my three GD streaming devices for the same reason.
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ggrothendieck 1722 days ago
> Grace Digital bricked my three GD streaming devices

If you are referring to a Reciva based internet radio the web site which powers them was shut down by the owner of that site, not by Grace Digital. Also, if it is similar to my CC Wifi Reciva based radio it is still possible to access existing presets on the radio although you can no longer add presets or modify them any more. When you power it on wait for the Network Error caused by the lack of the back end and then press Back twice and then a preset. The media server functionality also still works.

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WalterBright 1722 days ago
> If you are referring to a Reciva based internet radio the web site which powers them was shut down by the owner of that site, not by Grace Digital

I am referring to that. I'm reduced to 3 presets. The disaster is that:

1. the device was critically connected to a resource that GD does not control

2. GD offers no way to change this dependency, no way to redirect it elsewhere, no way to change the presets, no way to access radio stations, etc

3. I don't see any reason why they had to use Reciva to access Pandora

None of this was disclosed when I bought them. GD should offer a web interface to it, like my router has.

The media server does still work, but it can't read USB sticks with more than 32G of capacity.

But my Roku device can. Roku works fine when I hook up a 16T drive to its USB port. Pretty much all the streaming devices I looked at as replacement for GD have strange limitations on what can be connected (some USB sticks work, others do not), Roku does not.

I'm kinda shocked that 20 years after the Turtle Beach Audiotron, streaming devices are still mired in the stone age with bad user interfaces, poor device support, unusable displays, bricking, and very buggy (my GDs regularly locked up).

My GD display, for example, shows:

1. the title of the song 2. the bit rate 3. the elapsed time

When it should show:

1. title/album/band

2. time remaining

3. album cover art

The GD is like 90% towards being a good product. Why not go the last 10%?

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ggrothendieck 1722 days ago
At the time that CCrane, Grace and others started offering internet radios everyone was using Reciva and articles at the time referred to it as the Microsoft of internet radio so I don't think anyone at the time could have expected its downfall. This was really regarded as the safe bet. Also Grace has not offered a Reciva based radio for quite a few years so you must have quite an old one and have gotten many years of use out of it.

The CC Wifi 3 I got to replace my CC Wifi does have some anti-obsolescence features. It can be used as a bluetooth speaker and it has a built in web server that you can connect into from a browser and manually enter the URLs of streams so even if the Skytunes backend goes defunct like Reciva did the radio should still be somewhat usable.

If your radio can receive bluetooth you could put your media on a uPnP server, access it using vlc on a smartphone and then from there send it via bluetooth to the radio using it as a bluetooth speaker. That is probably more convenient than mucking with the radio to select audio files since you can do it on your smartphone with a better user interface. Anyways, that is what I do.

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WalterBright 1722 days ago
> put your media on a uPnP server, access it using vlc on a smartphone and then from there send it via bluetooth to the radio using it as a bluetooth speaker.

Hertzshaffnocheinmal! What a contraption. Here's what I want:

1. plug a USB device in that has all my media files on it

2. push "shuffle"

3. push "play"

Like how CD players work. In fact, even steps 2 and 3 should be optional. It should just work when the USB device is plugged in.

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ggrothendieck 1722 days ago
> plug a USB device in that has all my media files on it

If you have multiple radios (like I do) that would require physically moving the USB from one to another.

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WalterBright 1722 days ago
Or you could get multiple USB sticks. It's not like they're expensive!

My GDs are about to go to the recycler. I won't be buying a GD device again. They are a nice product marred by easily correctable flaws.

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