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by maqp 1725 days ago
"By default it's not e2ee"

And Win/Linux desktop chats are groups are not E2EE even if you want, so it's not just about it not being default, it's about the complete lack of E2EE for those.

"but this makes the distributed app model sooo much more user friendly."

It does not. It forces you to either drop E2EE, or whip out your phone hundreds of times a day.

"All your history is instantly available on the web client for example."

Which is a privacy nightmare, web-based crypto is never safe, not even when it supports E2EE. https://tonyarcieri.com/whats-wrong-with-webcrypto

"Try that with Signal."

You obviously can't because a) it's a security risk as per above and b) you don't need to as you can have native Signal client on your phone and your laptop and your desktop. Try having just one E2EE chat with Telegram across all three devices. You can't, even if you want to.

"The web client works if your phone is out of battery. Try that with WhatsApp."

Yeah, WA's system is shit, but at least they're working on a native desktop client (that also works on tablets), and that too, will feature E2EE for everything. Can't say that for Telegram.