| > You're comparing a car built, as far as I can tell No, I'm comparing battery electric propulsion to supercars and hypercars, which is what the thread is about. Remember the claim is "a lot of factors against EVs for super/hypercars". Here are some definitions for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/anything-goes/matt-priors... The point is battery electric propulsion is clearly in the realm of supercars today. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE_w1-5eHgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4orCB71BgY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUB1z5wr5p8 > Also, the full 22.8km Nordschleife record is Niki Lauda's in a 45 year old Formula (i.e. w/ rules) F1 car - 6:55. The VW's record is for the 20.8 km circuit. The VW ID.R completed its lap in 365 seconds. That's an average of 1 km every 17.55 seconds. Add on the extra 35 seconds for the extra 2 km, or even add on an extra 45 seconds, and the ID.R still beats Niki. Sorry. |
“ The point is battery electric propulsion is clearly in the realm of supercars today. Here's an example:”
No, they dont. They can only compete on a very restricted space: straight line speed, or a single lap. The competition is always tailored to deal with the same problem: they’re heavy.
“ The VW ID.R completed its lap in 365 seconds. That's an average of 1 km every 17.55 seconds. Add on the extra 35 seconds for the extra 2 km, or even add on an extra 45 seconds, and the ID.R still beats Niki. Sorry.”
You either break the record or you don't. Theres no “could possibly if I do a linear fit”.
Linear fit? Really?
But lets keep it linear. Niki’s record is 45 years old on a longer, more difficult track on a car made to last a 2 hr race and not custom built for that one track, and not made of carbon fiber.
Im supposed to be impressed compared to the Ferrari?
Here’s F1 dirty secret:
Since the 1930s (!!) the cars have been faster than human reflexes. F1 rules, for almost 100 years, have been about slowing the cars down.
Good for VW, great accomplishment, but its good for an electric car. Good despite being an electric car. Good for within their competition space. But the ICE has too much of a weight advantage.