[Cosmin_C]

Seriously, I would never have expected that somebody would unironically go on and compare VW with Ferrari.

You literally have no idea what Ferarri is and what they do and where they do it and how they hire their employees. Their cars are almost exclusively hand-made and everybody who works at Ferrari is proud to do so, yes, even the dude mowing the grass - this is not cheap to maintain. There are people there whose skills can't be translated to building electric cars - which are really just oversized RC cars. There are people there who are experts in engines - and those will be laid off. In fact, everybody working on engines at Ferrari would be laid off. And those are a lot of people.

The ICE is something that deserves to go on in something special like a Ferrari. This whole electric cars debacle makes me wish the planet would be blown up by aliens sooner before we all roll around in crappy BMW i3 lookalikes because there's nothing else available and there is no choice albeit industry is polluting several degrees of magnitude more than just ICE cars[1]. And certainly so in the case of a small italian sports cars manufacturer that yields true works of art, poetry on wheels.

By comparison, VW is a tech giant who can afford to mass produce their stuff and will not suffer nor will they have to lay off a significant percentage of their staff.

Video reference [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw6_JakZFc

[peoplefromibiza]

I know this is not reddit and I will gladly accept downvotes, but you nailed it!

That's what I was trying to talk about.

There are things that deserve to be preserved, like we do with our artistic heritage, Ferrari's ICEs are one of them.

[urthor]

I think this is the fundamental disagreement.

Preserving the ICE is like preserving the cigarette. The cigarette's place in classic culture, in classic movies and nightlife, is profound.

Doesn't make me sympathetic one little bit. Petrol engines, cigarettes, it's fundamentally unhealthy, get rid of it.

If Ferrari is unwilling to convert to electric automobiles, then Ferrari can go the way of Marlborough.

[peoplefromibiza]

> Preserving the ICE is like preserving the cigarette

That's a silly comparison IMO

Ferrari engines are not dangerous for anybody

Anyway, human life is unhealthy for the rest of the World, would you get rid of that too?

Ask mega fauna if you disagree.

> then Ferrari can go the way of Marlborough.

So much nonsensical bitterness...

You know that every car is made of toxic products and they can't stop using them, in your opinion is it more unhealthy 2 thousands Ferrari every year or millions of Volkswagen, their tires and motor/brake oil (which are highly toxic)

Should we get rid of VolksWagen too?

Dogmas are stupid.

[ThePowerOfDirge]

Considering that Italy will be hit hard by climate change, I find this a weird opinion to hold for an Italian. Last thing I heard there's no garbage pickup in the capital city in Rome, so these Ferrari companies must somehow forgot to pay their taxes a lot or?

[urthor]

We cannot solve every problem right away.

But constantly improving, in many small ways, and chipping away at issues is how we make the world a better place.

Certainly I think phasing out ICEs, especially on public roads, is essential.

The Ferrari business model of producing highly polluting sports cars, when there are far more efficient electric models that can run on wind power, is not a positive direction to be traveling in.