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No. OP is completely wrong and has zero understanding of car dynamics. They put weights in F1 cars to get them to the regulated minimum weight.

Car (dry weight I believe) + driver + weight > minimum.

There is no advantage to adding dead weight in a car. The disadvantage can be minimized by using very dense metals that minimize their impact on the car's moment of inertia.

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I'm wrong?

I said "Weight in corners hurts you in terms of acceleration out and by the turning force required to change the momentum direction."

You are twisting my words to say that i'm arguing weight is a benefit, which is an easier argument for you to attack....

My point is that a low center of gravity and higher downforces are positive influences on a car.

The increased weight can be OVERCOME in race duration by using this downforce and by the exceptional performance of motors over engines.

Oh look... I made my point without resorting to a reddit attack on your character.

[sbakzbsmx]

“My point is that a low center of gravity and higher downforces are positive influences on a car.“

You dont add mass just to lower CoM. And downforce from added mass sucks: the downforce, Fn = mg, from weight cancels out

Slam on the breaks. Traction is F = u m g. acceleration is F/m = a

M cancels out so weight doesnt help you. It appears to come out even though.

Except it doesnt cancel out. Traction scales sub linearly. So your stopping times go up.

Same thing for every part of the track.

Corner? Turning torque is proportional to mass. Traction is sub linear to mass.

Acceleration in a straight? Power is constant wrt mass so accel is inverse proportional to mass.

And to all of this you have to add the aero effect which add to mass downforce and aren’t proportional to mass.

So traction becomes:

Ff = u(Fn) = u(mg + kv^2)

For high speeds v^2 dominates so Ff is constant with m so:

A = Ff/m.

Or acceleration is inversely proportional to mass for any driver action.

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Throwaways are rampant on arguing against strawmen... Hmmm...

No one has argued that a heavier car will go faster.

I am arguing that because the weight is low it handles better than a car of the same mass with ICE distribution of weight.

I'm arguing that because the weight is not 'just to lower CoM' but instead 'to allow insane amounts of rapid energy release' the NET RESULT is something ICE can not accomplish.

Another throwaway account mentioned the Panamera turbo S beat the plaid by 5.7 seconds on the nordschliefe... Ignoring the fact that the plaid was carrying 90% too much battery for the circuit, the ICE was not carrying excess fuel, and that the 'ICE' is actually a hybrid and the identical car (Panamera turbo) without electric power was another 5 seconds slower than plaid /despite/ fueling down.

Also your friction force purism ignores that the behaviour of a car at it's limits has a huge effect on how the driver can drive the circuit.

A heavy EV with low CoM can be driven at or near the limit of traction without risking an F1 style spinout when tires chirp.

If you've driven a Tesla you know how difficult it is to get off it's turning line.