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by hirako2000
1725 days ago
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I was required to take vaccines too, so what? We are talking about a vaccine that doesn't even prevent infection. A vaccine that requires 2 doses ( apparently now a 3rd dose is coming in ) for a questionable immunity in effectiveness and lifespan. A vaccine not mandated to be taken when visiting a country at risk such as Kenya, no. Governments have been pushing for universal vaccination, whether one travels or not. A worldwide campaign for vaccination, followed by pressure and mandating that a number of public places and businesses only vaccinated people to be, along with a tracker or pass being checked when visitors go to a restaurant, those are radical measures and a threat to individual freedom. |
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What do you mean, “so what?” Isn’t this exactly what you’ve been complaining about?
> We are talking about a vaccine that doesn't even prevent infection.
No vaccine against any disease guarantees that in any specific individual. Yet at a population level, all the various COVID vaccines which were validated by the trials all reduce symptomatic infection, and the one I took in particular definitely reduces the risk of non-symptomatic infection.
> A vaccine that requires 2 doses ( apparently now a 3rd dose is coming in )
Commonplace. I’ve had several like that; I’d have to look up which disease they were against.
Also, how many doses you need for COVID depends on which of the half-dozen completely different vaccines you’ve been given.
> for a questionable immunity in effectiveness
False, assuming you’re using the word “questionable” in anything other than the sense in which scientists call gravity a “theory”.
> and lifespan.
Common in vaccines, because viruses mutate. Literally why influenza vaccines only last one year.
> A worldwide campaign for vaccination,
So like smallpox? And the only reason yellow fever (and polio, diphtheria, rubella, etc.) isn’t endemic in (e.g. the USA) are the various vaccine campaigns.
> followed by pressure and mandating that a number of public places and businesses only vaccinated people to be,
Quite a lot of childhood vaccines are “your child has the vaccine or they are not allowed to school”.
> along with a tracker or pass being checked when visitors go to a restaurant,
Those were put in before the vaccine, so as to help prevent the spread. They go away when enough people are vaccinated — or get ill — to create population immunity.
> those are radical measures and a threat to individual freedom.
Nothing you’ve listed is radical, and none of it is a threat.
What is a threat to individual freedom is that immunodeficient people have to hide in their homes because too many other people think vaccination is just a personal choice.
Plausibly also when the same get ill and fill up hospital beds so that people with non-pandemic illnesses and injuries can’t get treated.
As the saying goes: “your freedom to swing your fist stops with my nose“.