[haroldp]

I first joined facebook in 2009, but have been on the internet since 1991.

You might counter that facebook only started in 2004, and didn't get much traction until 2006. But I was invited before that and simply didn't care to join, preferring to occupy other parts of the `net.

Likewise, Clovis artifacts all date from after the peak of the last ice age, when glaciers were melting, land routes were opening, and sea levels were rising to obliterate any coastal artifacts from any previous waves of migration.

Clovis-first has been debunked for decades. This is just another - particularly solid - nail in that theory's coffin. It is worth asking why it has persisted so doggedly. I don't think it is because archeologists aren't very smart people.

[mistrial9]

you were using what network protocol stack in 1991 ? Banyan "vines" or token-ring ?

[nobody9999]

I was running a full TCP/IP stack (ka9q[0]) across over single-mode fiber via a 10MB/Sec ethernet interface on my IBM PC/XT clone in 1990.

I also used some higher-level stuff like telnet, FTP (sites mostly found via anonymous FTP lists), nntp, smtp, gopher, archie and veronica.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KA9Q

[mistrial9]

sure, but I was a network engineer at the time and your TCP/IP was very, very niche.. you know very well that there was no "Internet" in 1990

[haroldp]

WTF is this? I was at university and I assure you we were connected to the internet. I got a login and an email address from the physics department in `91 because I was working on a project on their network. I used Elm for email, which had been out since the 80s. I was happy to upgrade to Pine (Pine is not elm) in 1992 and actually kept using Pine until like 1999. By `92 pretty much everyone else at my university was using the internet. I could dial up from home via modem, and check my email. NCSA Mosaic came out in `93.

[nobody9999]

>ure, but I was a network engineer at the time and your TCP/IP was very, very niche.. you know very well that there was no "Internet" in 1990

There was no consumer Internet in 1990.

However, TCP/IP was in use across a broad range of academic institutions and corporations, and it was possible for pretty much anyone to buy access to TCP/IP-based inter-networks.

Which, if you were a network engineer (and not for Novell or DEC) at the time, you would know.

[Kostchei]

direct dial to BBS, at least that was the "internet" for me at that stage. The disparate nodes of bulletin boards wasn't what I would call an internet. And it was very cliquish.