[antegamisou]

> One of the few VPNs that actually don't log traffic.

How can one be so certain that this is the case? The only thing that's for sure is the claim they do not keep any evidence. I don't have anything against this VPN, it's really just an inherent trust problem with any provider. You take their word for it and be smart/ethical enough not to have any sketchy activity when you use it because there's a pretty good chance logs are being kept.

I don't mean to make this personal to you but it's weird seeing a tech-literate crowd like HN act naive when it comes to VPN usage, based on arguments like "oh X is shady you should use Y instead, it's 100% private!".

My point being, don't expect that doing extremely dumb shit online means any service, no matter how reputable, that may aid you do so will have your back.

[darthvoldemort]

The only ones you can trust are the ones that have actively fought court orders. That is a reasonable show of certainty that they do what they say otherwise there are real legal consequences.

[lilsoso]

You still don’t know if they’re feeding your data to an intelligence agency or data broker.

For example, why wouldn’t China run a few top VPN companies — or at least compromise them? The benefit would outweigh the costs. So they shield you from piracy lawsuits and the like, they gain data to blackmail and compromise key figures later on.