[jsudi]

> I think it's fine to be stuck on a "good enough" standard, if this results in less e-waste and less need to upgrade all accessories simply because the dominant connection port changed.

That’s your opinion. I disagree and I certainly don’t want to see it written into law.

[cute_boi]

but without writing in law apple will never care about environment right? They are getting money from each connector so why would they? Is it possible to solve such issue without law?

What solution do you propose? If you have solution let us know?

[ben_w]

I don’t think that’s entirely fair to Apple: they are trying to not include a charger at all in the first place (just the cable), which does a lot more for the environment than including a charger which you can use with anything as well as forcing the cable to be useful for more than one device.

[foepys]

The law introduced by the EU commission also addresses this. They don't want chargers to be included by default anymore exactly because of this.

[ben_w]

Good, but not relevant to me defending Apple in this instance; Apple are even doing this (or at least tried to do this) where there not only wasn’t a legal requirement to do so, but a legal prohibition against doing so: https://www.engadget.com/apple-brazil-fine-over-iphone-12-ch...

[jsudi]

If citizens care about the environment they will stop buying Apple products. They don’t, hence they don’t care about the environment. Why make laws that go against the citizen wishes?

[ibrcic]

It's not that they don't care, it's that they are not knowledgeable enough about the issue and don't have time or will to research it further. That's why we have laws and regulations, so that average Joe doesn't have to research the impact of everything he buys on his body/environment.

With that logic you could say, "why ban dangerous levels of pesticides in the food, if people don't like it, they will not buy the product."

[theranger]

Apple recycles huge amounts of materials from old products. I really hope that people are not following your suggestion and estimate the environmental impact only by iPhone cable and connector port.

[selfhoster11]

The problem is that they don't care enough to act. Tragedy of the commons.

[foepys]

The same reason why there are regulations about pollution in general.