[bigmattystyles]

Fuck that noise Jack; I recently updated my home computer and had to install Windows 10 from scratch - Even its setup seems to have changed for the worst since I originally installed it on my now defunct PC. I have the Pro edition (that I paid $200 for) - using the latest ISO, the whole setup just felt user and privacy hostile. I remembered that it would try to make me use my Hotmail account as a user account, but when I tried to go the old way of using a local account, it just kept telling me I was limiting my new system's capabilities. It kept trying to put me back on Hotmail account path. There were a few other things, like trying to get me to sign up for Office with a dark (well maybe gray) pattern, forcing Edge on me, which even though it is Chromium based and I would use it, they were so aggressive about it, it turned me off it completely. Don't get me started on the fact that I seem to be signed up for something called Bing rewards now and that there are ads in my start menu and in the new task bar weather widget. They also seem to have by default installed something called MeetNow in my taskbar and while you can hide the icon, you seemingly can't uninstall it. I have to say, as a .NET dev, I've been so happy with all the .NetCore stuff and even Azure is growing on me - but this Windows business is extremely disconcerting. If that's how even Windows 10 has evolved, I don't want any part of 11, even from just what I have seen so far.

[elorant]

I'm on the same boat. While .net development is a breeze, the Windows ecosystem is a drag. I wish they could provide a Windows for Devs edition that would be stripped down to the bare minimal. The problem with Windows is that it's trying to be everything for everyone. One OS for multiple devices, instead of separating mobile/tablet from desktop as Apple did. Thus every stupid idea they come with is embedded in all versions of the OS. I'm serious contemplating the idea of moving to Linux, and the only thing that's holding me back is Visual Studio.

The one thing I can't stand about Windows is that they've added a bazillion of settings. It literally took me 6 hours a day just to go into every freaking setting in Control Panel, and I can't even remember where is everything. You have menus on the left, menus on the right, extra links on the bottom, a clusterfuck of UI design. For fuck's sake Microsoft, I just need an OS to do my work.

[wayneftw]

The last time I worked on a .NET Core (v2) project, I was able to do everything that I needed to on my Manjaro workstation.

One thing that I missed was SQL Server Management Studio, but Azure Data Studio was more than good enough and it even had some nice features that SSMS lacked, like project folders and GIT integration. SQL Server itself ran just fine in a Docker container.

A peer of mine is doing the same thing on the Manjaro desktop that I setup for him and he's using .NET Core v5.

[elorant]

Yeap, Azure Studio is good, and also fast. The latest SSMS is so sluggish.

Which IDE did you use to replace Visual Studio?

[bigmattystyles]

not comment Op - but vscode is great and portable. I've also used Rider but find myself going to vscode more and more, especially with ssh to folder to develop. That's a glaring omission in Rider - last I checked, they had this funky workaround but nowhere near as good.

[wayneftw]

VS Code

[pie42000]

Apple doesn't look so bad now, does it

[asiachick]

Apple requires signing in and registering a credit card to do almost anything on an iOS.

[LeoPanthera]

That's not true, don't spread FUD.

Create or use an Apple ID without a payment method: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034

[lostmsu]

What about without Apple ID?

[LeoPanthera]

That isn't what the comment I was replying to said.

However, you need an Apple ID to use the App Store. It's not needed for any of the built-in apps, though.

(It might be needed for iMessage or FaceTime? I'm actually not sure. I think you can use iMessage without it, but it doesn't sync between devices.)

[tpush]

No, it doesn't.

[dgellow]

I understand that you're angry and feel frustrated, but you're writing about your Windows 10 experience in a thread about new Surface devices and Windows 11. That just feels off-topic IMHO.

[LeoPanthera]

Do you honestly believe that Windows 11 will not do any of that stuff? That would be a sudden shocking reversal.

[dgellow]

We will have plenty of time to complain about it when Windows 11 is released. I would personally prefer to see discussions regarding the actual Surface devices in a Surface thread.

[bigmattystyles]

I see your point but the article is about the Surface and how it is made for Windows 11. As a consumer, what do I have to base it on today other than how they've changed Windows 10 for the worst. To me what you're saying is like telling me I can't form on opinion on Police Academy 6 based on what I thought of Police Academy 5,4,3,2 and 1.

[dgellow]

That’s not my point. You can form the opinion you want. On HN submissions related to Microsoft or Apple have a very strong tendency to drift to a list of personal complaints people have regarding the company. Over time that’s a pain for people who want to discuss the actual topic of the submission, here a release of new devices, and not an operating system from 2015.