[VLM]

People are too free with their phones. Just walk into a bar and say you're too drunk to drive and could the bartender call my wife to pick me up? Not knowing its actually picking up $60M worth of coke instead of picking up me.

Or pull off to the side of the road, walk in well dressed, wave a dead iphone in front of them, ask the receptionist "hey my car broke down and my battery is dead, could you call this number and tell them my car broke down?" Or bonus points if the cops arrive because you're blocking traffic, ask the cop to call on their phone.

(edited I got the best idea that most anyone would fall for: Slip a kid $20 to ask an adult to call his mommie because he got lost...)

[vkou]

This is all well and good for communicating a single, pre-planned operation, but you're going to need to communicate a lot more in order to actually do all that pre-planning for it.

[monocasa]

That's a function of there not being penalties. You'd see that change if the laws changed.

[dredmorbius]

Penalties for what exactly, here?

Good Samaritanism?

[monocasa]

The whole thread here is about penalties for assisting criminal enterprises with a SIM tied to your identity.

[dredmorbius]

And if I place a call for someone on good-faith belief that they need assistance?

[monocasa]

I don't get where your point is leading or coming from.

[dredmorbius]

Let's back up a bit here.

What specifically in this comment would you penalise?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28620403

And how would you address the issue of people being good sams --- making calls on behalf of someone else when they ask, in good faith.

See for example RMS:

When I need to call someone, I ask someone nearby to let me make a call. If I use someone else's cell phone, that doesn't give Big Brother any information about me.

https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html