[fredoliveira]

I don't understand the fuss about grids, well its graphic design lesson 1.

The fuss about grids is that they make sense on the web and there's no actual, proper, standard way to create and use them yet. Sure, if you know your way around CSS you can effectively create a grid-system for a site (and with media-queries you can make it flexible enough to support multiple devices), but the fact that it isn't a standard (despite being, as you said, graphic design lesson 1) means there's lots of work to do.

So it isn't really about making a fuss (although for some people talking about grids is indeed still in-fashion). It's about working towards making/using grids on the web easy for everyone and not just those of us know know the inner workings of the box-model, DOM and CSS.

We'd still be riding horses if Ford didn't make a "fuss about cars".

[fredoliveira]

(Please forgive this slight vent/derail, but HN is becoming a strange place when I get downvoted for voicing my opinion in a honest and respectful way. Heck, I said absolutely nothing that can be construed as wrong. I'd love to know why it happened - different opinions? If so, add them to the discussion, don't be the silent guy getting away with downvoting other people's posts because they differ from your own point of view.)

[wccrawford]

Yes it is. You get downvoted here if someone doesn't like your post for any reason whatsoever.

And now that nobody can see any numbers, they can't tell if you've gotten massively upvoted or not, either. In the past, I'm sure they'd have gone 'meh, no votes, don't worry about it' but now they can't/won't take that attitude simply because they don't know. So they downvote. It doesn't cost them anything and they feel better for having tried to silence an opinion or fact they don't like.

Now, I'll be downvoted for being off-topic, and that's a whole 'nother story.

[rimantas]

  > We'd still be riding horses if Ford didn't make a "fuss
  > about cars".

There is interface and there is implementation. Cars a much easier to drive than Ford-T, but the engineering of the implementation is much much more complex. I don't think everyone who can drive a car can make it. I'd be pretty scared driving one made by those who don't know the inner workings.