[whalesalad]

iCloud backup alone is worth it. If you have nightly backups and lose your phone you can just buy a new one and restore.

[sitzkrieg]

and give law enforcement full access to unencrypted messages woohoo!

[blitzar]

And if you dont use icloud backup the judge is going to deny the prosecution access to your devices?

[GekkePrutser]

No, but they will have an awful time trying to get into them of course.

[watermelon0]

So it's basically the same as other commonly used messaging services such as email, Facebook Messenger, and Telegram (outside of Secret Chats)?

[doomrobo]

FB Messenger and WhatsApp are end-to-end encrypted by default

[kevincox]

I'm quite sure that FB Messenger is not. They do have an option for secret chats but it is not the default and quite awkward to use (1 device and only mobile last time I used it)

[postpawl]

You can choose whether or not to back up messages.