[the_gipsy]

> going too fast through turns

Going fast through turns is exactly the point for the majority of riders (all except choppers)

[i_am_proteus]

Yes, but not going too fast.

One of the reasons I stopped going on group rides was lead riders who burned through blind corners. I'll take an open corner with good visibility as fast as I dare, but if I can't see through the turn, I take it slowly.

[mPReDiToR]

Always ride your own ride.

Let the other guys arrive at the scene of the accident first.

You, me, a couple of other middle aged guys all hanging back on our sports tourers, while the crotch rockets are off antagonising the cage dwellers.

We'll all arrive in time for coffee, no sweat.

[i_am_proteus]

So completely spot, on my friend.

[the_gipsy]

Yea you’re right. When riding in group, it should be ok to stay behind, as long as the last rider of a split-group waits at road forks.