[jfrunyon]

They are claiming the electoral college is undemocratic. Which it is, by the very definition.

If you've missed the voter suppression thus far, you and I both know that you won't listen to any evidence or argument otherwise.

There are many more ideologies than capitalist and communist. The world is not black and white.

[CountDrewku]

>If you've missed the voter suppression thus far, you and I both know that you won't listen to any evidence or argument otherwise.

I want specific examples. Shouldn't be hard if it's so prevalent.

>They are claiming the electoral college is undemocratic. Which it is, by the very definition

Yeah we're a republic. Do you know why? Because it protects the minority. You might want to consider what happens when you're inevitably in the minority at some point. Unless you just assume that you're going to agree with everything the population centers in the coastal areas want?

>There are many more ideologies than capitalist and communist. The world is not black and white.

Yep thanks for proving my point. OP's comment WAS black and white. He blamed it specifically on capitalism. It's a power issue not a capitalism issue. Historically capitalism is much less likely to end up with the power in the hands of the few than any other economic system.

[jfrunyon]

No, you have either already seen and dismissed many, many specific examples, or are simply willfully ignorant.

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-vot...

Democracy and republic are not incompatible, you don't know what republic means (or democracy for that matter), and the only minority it protects is the wealthy. Furthermore, the person you replied to was replying to a comment which stated, and I quote, "How about simply fix the laws through Democratic processes".

OP's comment was NOT black and white. They did NOT say Communism was the solution. You, however, assumed that was what they meant, and proceeded to use that as a basis to attack their position, despite providing zero evidence to back up your attack - even if they HAD said Communism was the solution.

As your entire comment history is bad-faith, I'm done with this thread. Bye-bye.

[CountDrewku]

Ahhh the ol' voter ID is racist. How do you feel about vaccine passports then? Because the same people pushing the ID rhetoric are in full support of forcing minorities to carry a passport around.... which requires ID to verify. Can you explain the double-think on this one?

>No, you have either already seen and dismissed many, many specific examples, or are simply willfully ignorant.

Also, can you can stop with the inflammatory responses and act like an adult please? There's no reason providing evidence for your stances should upset you so much. Do you want to change my mind or just play a game of internet gotcha?

[dragonwriter]

> Ahhh the ol' voter ID is racist. How do you feel about vaccine passports then? Because the same people pushing the ID rhetoric

When you say the people pushing the ID rhetoric, are you talking about the people actually sponsoring the voter ID proposals who keep getting caught using the intended racist and partisan effects of voter ID laws as selling points of those laws when they think only allies are listening, or the people pointing that out to the general public? Because both are pushing the same narrative, but to different audiences.

[CountDrewku]

>voter ID laws as selling points of those laws when they think only allies are listening, or the people pointing that out to the general public? Because both are pushing the same narrative, but to different audiences.

I really don't understand what this means...

Left claims voter ID racist because minorities are unable to obtain an ID. They claim they're too dumb, too poor, can't use the internet and a variety of other racist things that apparently aren't racist because the left said them and not the right.

They then turn around and claim vaccine passports should be mandated. How do you verify a vaccine passport is legit? Guess what you need a government ID.

What group has the lowest vaccination rates in this country? Are ID requirements racist or not? You cannot claim they're racist and then turn around and change your stance when it comes to vaccine passports.

[dragonwriter]

> Left claims voter ID racist because minorities are unable to obtain an ID

No, the center-right-to-center-left coalition party claims concrete voter ID proposals are racist, partisan efforts by right-to-far-right coalition party because proponents of voter ID laws keep getting caught in venues that are viewed as friendly to their partisan alignment promoting voter ID as a tool to keep people of the “wrong” race and party from voting.

Its true that the former party also, in certain cases where this has occurred, points out access issues that the latter party deliberately creates in parallel with the voter ID effort as part of the mechanism by which the racist, partisan goal is acheived.