[rmah]

because Montreal is generally safer than NYC

Crime in Montreal is actually quite a bit higher than in NYC. In 2019, with data from Statistics Canada (for Montreal) and the FBI (for NYC)...

Montreal's violent crime rate (1140 per 100k people) is double that of NYC (571 per 100k people). The property crime rate in Montreal (2,222 per 100k people) is similarly higher than NYC (1,460 per 100k people).

Sources: https://www.areavibes.com/montr%C3%A9al-qc/crime/ and https://www.areavibes.com/new+york-ny/crime/

[jollybean]

International comparisons for crimes with vague definitions are hard, and I don't think those numbers are effectively comparable.

Have a look [1].

'Murder' is a straight forward thing to define. Someone gets killed.

But 'assault' is a very vague thing.

According to that list 'Iceland' is a crime ridden country with overall crime 4x more than the US, even though murder in the US is more than 10x greater?

More like reporting, charges, definitions, data collection is different.

That said: Montreal is slightly sketchy for petty crime, and some places getting drunk and fighting is normal (UK/Nordic) and in some places, they use knives (i.e. Wales, Scotland).

[1] https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-...

[nerdponx]

Maybe things like "felony manslaughter" also complicate classification.