[thinkingemote]

I think the point was that, apparently, the official position of the Australian opposition (who should be more critical of the government) was that the US couldn't fight themselves out of a paper bag, rather than France was better and honour should be important. Perhaps there's no such thing as honour anymore?

But this is just my very limited European view of the news, and news is something that I restrict myself on.

[throwawaylinux]

> Perhaps there's no such thing as honour anymore?

Among governments though? That's rich. They treat their own citizens worse than this. They're happy to move industry and jobs offshore, change policies and legislation at a moments notice.