[anigbrowl]

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I live near a traffic artery so I've always known there were trade-offs, but the frustration does mount after a while. My #1 beef is when the traffic is paused but you just missed the light change when you hit the ped xing button, and now it's not safe to rely on the light staying green while you dart across.

[waits]

San Francisco avoids this particular problem by having the walk signal turn on automatically when the car signal is green — no need to hit a button (most intersections don't have buttons at all, and the ones that exist aren't even hooked up to the light).

I don't know if this would translate well to other cities — SF has a very pedestrian-friendly layout with narrow, slow streets , small blocks, and short light cycles — but it works well enough here that it might be worth trying elsewhere.

[smichel17]

When I visited Barcelona, I was struck by their intersection design. It's great.

Instead of squares, their streets intersect in diamonds, where the (largely one-way) streets come out of the corners. They're a bit larger than a square intersection-- it's like you took the square, and then filled in four right triangles at each of the corners.

The main effect is that crosswalks are significantly pushed back from the intersection center. As a pedestrian, there's far less ambiguity about where the cars are going (regardless of whether they use their signal). Same for drivers: you never have to wonder which way a pedestrian is gong to cross when they're standing at a corner where two crosswalks meet, because there are no such corners.

Of course, this also makes intersections much bigger. This is offset by having parking spaces along the edges of intersections.

[jonas21]

That might be great if you're visiting or just out for a stroll.

But let me tell you, it can be infuriating if you're walking to actually get somewhere. The city I live in has been replacing 2-way and 4-way stops with roundabouts, which has a similar effect of moving the crosswalks away from the intersection. Now it takes much longer to walk anywhere because you keep having to detour out of your way to cross the street.

[SECProto]

Yes, 'beg buttons' are awful (as are the 'red-revert' signal designs you allude to).