[liber8]

I'm on my third Tesla. FSD on highways has improved so much in the last 6 years. On my first Tesla, autopilot would regularly try to kill you by running you into a gore point or median (literally once per trip on my usual commute). I now can't even remember the last time I had an issue on the highway.

Anywhere else is basically a parlor trick. Yes, it sorta works, a lot of the time, but you have to monitor it so closely that it isn't really beneficial. As you point out, its going to take some serious advances (which in all likelihood are 30+ years away) for FSD to reliably work in city centers.

I think the issue you've highlighted is one of governance. There's only so much Tesla can do regarding highways. You really need the government to step in to mandate coordination of the type I think you're envisioning. And the government is pretty much guaranteed to fuck it up and adopt some dumb standard that kills all innovation after about 6 months, so it never actually becomes usable.

I think automakers will eventually figure this out themselves. As you say, there are too many benefits for this not to happen organically. Once vehicles can talk to each other, everything will change.

[ChuckNorris89]

>On my first Tesla, autopilot would regularly try to kill you by running you into a gore point or median (literally once per trip on my usual commute)

And people paid money for this privilege?

[liber8]

To be fair, it still felt like magic. My car would drive me 20 miles without me really having to do anything, other than make sure it didn't kill me at an interchange.

And I'm now trying to remember, but I think autopilot was initially free (or at least was included with every car I looked at, so it didn't seem like an extra fee). Auotpilot is now standard on all Teslas, but FSD is an extra $10k, which IMO is a joke.

[kaba0]

Humans are ridiculously bad at overseeing something that mostly works. That’s why it is insanely more dangerous.

Also, the problem is “easy” for the general case, but the edge cases are almost singularity-requiring. The former is robot vacuum level, the latter is out of our reach for now.

[ChuckNorris89]

I bet it felt magic, but if my car would actively try to kill me, it would go back to the dealer ASAP.

I'm not paying with money and my life to be a corporation's guinea pig.

[aaroninsf]

Part of what I don't get so to speak,

is why there we haven't seen the feds stepping in via the transportation agency to develop and regulate exactly this, with appropriate attention paid to commercial, personal, and emergency vehicle travel.

The opportunities there appear boundless and the mechanisms for stimulating development equally so...

I really don't get it. Then I think about DiFi and I kind of do.