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by neonbones 1732 days ago
Thanks for the informative answer.

Cant the "roots" be also in segregation problems before? If I remember correctly what I learned early, it was called something like "red lining" created "bad neighborhoods" in cities.

>My guess is that Ukrainians just don't have time for that kind of nonsense. If someone is violent, they are put away quickly.

It is mostly true for Ukraine. But the real curse, as I said, is not organized crime, gangs, or someone with a firearm. The biggest problem in Ukraine is domestic violence. Most police officers don't have any weapon here except pepper sprays, stun guns, and other non-lethal tools. They usually fight with a drunk 40-something man who will get drunk and try to kill his family after that.

Domestic violence is a curse for CIS countries. And even if Ukraine changed government and how everything works with new and young politicians, you can't change people. In the end, 40%+ of the population suffers violence, and most of them, of course, are women. Great inheritance from the Soviet era, where "no violence, no sex, no drugs, only happy people." https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Violence_against_women_in_Ukrain...

>According to the estimation of OSCE the violence towards women is widespread in Ukraine and it is associated with three times more deaths than the ongoing War in Donbas in the Donbas region of Ukraine

Fragment from the Wiki article. More women get killed by their husbands than people die in the ongoing war with artillery, tanks, aviation, etc. This is as bad as you can imagine when you read it.

Want to know how Russia fights domestic violence? They just decriminalized it, that's all. They don't even try anymore, so the only help you can get is from non-profit organizations.

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"Cant the "roots" be also in"

Maybe, but it's not relevant. Let's all fix the root problems, but let's not create a dependency on it. If we want to solve a problem, we have to solve the problem in the reality we have (flawed as it is), not the reality we want.

"The biggest problem in Ukraine is domestic violence."

Sad to hear. Going back to the main topic, it seems like you might be suggesting that women owning guns might be a solution to that problem?

> If we want to solve a problem, we have to solve the problem in the reality we have (flawed as it is), not the reality we want.

I totally agree here. It's not better than typical procrastination with waiting for "ideal env" to do anything. It won't happen. The "magic monday" when it's will be the best time to solve a problem won't happen. You try to solve it, or you don't.

>it seems like you might be suggesting that women owning guns might be a solution to that problem?

I'm not sure about that one. Would it actually help women in that situation? I'm not even sure if that won't just create additional problems without any help for the original case.