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by Wavelets 1734 days ago
Maybe it has better security, but it has worse privacy. Windows 10 is my last MS OS. Heading back to Linux as my daily driver with a System 76 machine.
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Windows 10 was what pushed me to start using Linux full time. It just broke me, how nonsensical it was. Going through several layers of new UI style sidebars, submenu items just to end up... in classic Control Panel with configuration elements divided up between new and old?

Windows still has an insanely convoluted installation process whereas Ubuntu boots straight into a usable desktop from installation medium and has less prompts before your one single reboot into the installed OS.

Windows honestly needs to be burnt to the ground and redone from scratch before I'll consider using it again.

> Windows honestly needs to be burnt to the ground and redone from scratch before I'll consider using it again.

Preferably without requiring a LiveID and all the idiotic "Send to Grandparents" social media features. I want something to run programs and games, not a Facebook wannabe that tracks my every eye movement to show me more relevant ads or suggests content. If I want news and ads, I'll open a fucking browser (like that's not bad enough already).

I lived with Windows 10 for a few years, but eventually got tired of every update reverting my privacy and update settings. Jumped ship to linux and haven't looked back once.

Installing the OS and browsing the web at the same time? Take my money! Free? Ain't kiddin?

1000x Thank You to all devs, packagers and all i forgot in the Linuxverse.

A happy user since 07

I've been using Linux as my primary OS for about a year now and have had a great experience [Manjaro KDE on a ThinkPad T14s AMD]. It's really so much more pleasant to use than windows these days.

On rare occasion I need to be able to use RemoteApp for work, and have a win10 VirtualBox machine for those situations. Though I actually boot into windows even less than I thought I might when I first switched.

> so much more pleasant to use than windows

Is there anything in contention with windows in that regard? Maybe the mobile OSes?

In what regard? In being unpleasant to use? No, I believe modern Windows to be singular in its unpleasantness.

In seriousness, though, try as I might I can't seem to parse your first sentence even using my "native English speaker" plug-in.

> In being unpleasant to use

Yea.

Got my first Linux machine because of that, partially at least. I like an OS, for which I don't need an account, that just runs on hardware I own.
Found this out the other day: you can have local only accounts for Windows, although it's pretty hidden nowadays.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/can-i-sign-in-to...

(Search in the page "Switch from a Microsoft account to a local account")

Good call! Too late for me now so, especially since the majority of my Steam library is running just fine under Linux. Maybe for some online stuff, Teams for potential home schooling and so. The fact that local accounts are hidden sucks in itself so. I will keep Windows on my private laptop so, just in case. Not that I am going to upgrade to Win 11 so.
Better switch your wifi to metered connection then, like recommended upthread. Prevents automatic updates and being upgraded involuntarily (hopefully).
If privacy is a concern for you, you should never have accepted Windows 10 in the first place. It's very likely that the same reasons that made you tolerate Windows 10 will make you accept Windows 11 as well.
The security is better in that it's more secure against you.
I just fired up a Win10 machine for the first time in some while in order to run specific software.

Good gawd. It was finally useful about 4 hours later after all the updates and tomfoolery. Never again.

Well, I am not sure it'd be painless to boot up a macOS machine or an Ubuntu desktop that hadn't been getting updates for months - probably not 4hr, but there'd be some annoyance.
Some anecdata: updating packages on Linux will finish in less than 20 minutes (given a high DL speed), no reboots inbetween, and afterwards you can keep working, unless you want to boot a newly installed Kernel.
The difference is that those will at most nag you, but unless you've been extremely thorough in disabling all of the automatic update machinery (which is almost malware-like in its persistence), on Windows it will come back with a vengeance.