[abj]

Saying Scrum in practice is not true Agile is like saying Stalinism in practice is not true Communism.

Scrum is not true Agile, but Scrum is what happens when you mix average company incentives with the Agile dream.

The principals were good, the average company couldn't implement them, and it's time to improve on these ideals.

We've had 20 years to implement the Agile principals but average companies couldn't. There are systemic reasons why Agile can't be implemented in the average company as the manifesto dreamed. A new manifesto should make changes that reflect these systemic problems.

[codingdave]

Companys should not be implementing a single Agile process across their entirety anyway. Each team has different people, and will need different details to their Agile process. A company who ignores that and just tells everyone to work the same way is putting processes over people, and thereby not Agile.

[macando]

Great comparison.

> A new manifesto should make changes that reflect these systemic problems.

I feel we're approaching this point.