[kmclean]

I think your analysis doesn't account for the fact that the majority of double vaccinated people are also at far higher risk of covid to begin with. There was an interesting article about this (Simpson's Paradox, as it's known in the world of data analysis) recently: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-... -- the overall trend is reversed when the data are grouped properly.

The preponderance of evidence shows that the covid vaccines are overwhelmingly effective and safe for the vast majority of people. Your alarmism and calling Government vaccination campaigns propaganda is contributing to the spread of an incurable but now preventable disease that is killing thousands of people daily and you should feel bad about that. You are a menace to society.

[b3nji]

Propaganda is simply information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

How else would you explain the fact they used old data? Incompetence?

Its clear the vaccines don't prevent much, you still catch, spread, and die from covid after being fully jabbed. This is what the report shows, and unfortunately been seen by myself through friends, and family.

Could calling people a menace to society do damage to a society simply because they are showing other points to your own?

[tpoacher]

Indeed. I also thought the ad hominem at the end was uncalled-for and unnecessary.

I'm very glad for the vaccine, it allowed me to start acting a bit more like a human again.

But words like "overwhelming" and "fully preventable" are their own kind of evil. Even a risk reduction as high as 90% only means your previous risk is now a tenth of what it was, but not zero or anything close to it.

This means people should still be using other measures to stop the spread, and perhaps words like "overwhelming" and "fully preventable" are enabling cavalier behaviours that are detrimental. One might even go as far as saying that people who enable such detrimental behaviours are a menace to society?

See? It's quite easy to reverse the ad hominem. Best to leave it out of a conversation altogether.

[freyr]

“The PHDA dataset was used in order to calculate the ASMRs by vaccination status and Table 3. One of the main strengths of the linked PHDA is that it combines a rich set of demographic and socio-economic factors from the 2011 Census and 2019 Patient Register with pre-existing conditions based on clinical records. This unique dataset was linked to NIMS and Test and Trace to allow us to analyse how ASMRs differ by vaccination status, when people were infected relative to vaccination, and examine the characteristics of people by vaccination status and infection date.

The PHDA contains data on approximately 79% of the population of England aged 10 years and over and includes 85.9% of all deaths of residents in England that occurred between 2 January 2021 and 2 July 2021 and were registered by 28 July 2021.“