[mohamedsa]

The future is also too long to assume our current generation languages will define it. While Lisp is a major step forward, I think it is by no means the end of language progress in the current couple of decades, let alone 1000 years.

[mahmud]

Lisp has its short comings, specially as an "industrial" language, but it wins hands down as an individual language.

I wouldn't use Lisp in my assembly-line, CRUD factory, but it will serve an artisan quite well.

[mohamedsa]

It might win hands down now, but probably not for a 1000 years.

Lisp certainly includes certain 'timeless' aspects, such as lambdas and homoiconicity, but other features (like conses everywhere, IMO) are simply implementation details of the time Lisp was first created.

I'm concerned that Lisp advocates, by repeatedly saying that Lisp is the final step in language design, the ultimate language,...etc might distract some from looking for additional, newer, insightful concepts in computation and language design.

[mahmud]

Cons is an implementation detail that no longer exists in reality. Most Lisps implement conses as arrays, and some Lisps, like Dylan, don't even use them to represent structure.

No programming language will survive a 1000 years. Not many works of science or art, or even human language have.

Programming language research has already grown past Lisp itself, or any other programming language, really. What we have now are logical models, their derivations and their proofs. If any of them can be materialized in an implementation, made practical, or even commercialized, great. Otherwise PL research is happiest as .. logic.

Edit:

اخ محمد، عجبتني رؤية لغتك البرمجية العربية. قمت ايضا بأنشاء بضعة لغات برمجبيات عربيات، معظمهن كلغات شبه لسبية :-)

[mohamedsa]

We seem to be in agreement then..

يسعدني أنها أعجبتك! هلا أريتني لغاتك التي اخترعتها؟ بريدي موجود في البروفايل لو أردت ذلك :)

[mahmud]

I love the irony of us communicating in a 1000+ year old language that doesn't seem to have changed (grew, yes, but not changed ;-)

يسعدني التواصل معك عزيزي. معظم ابحاثي اللغوية مبعثرة في عدة مواقع، واجهزة استودعت في اﻻهمال. ثمة دفاتر هنا وهناك. ساجلب بعضها من المخزون قريبا

حتى ذلك الحين، اتركك في مرحاب البحث والالهام