[raxxorrax]

I think there are pretty rational cases to forego a vaccination, especially young people under 20. And that there is advertising for them getting a vaccination might even be borderline irresponsible.

Add some political urge to stand out and make disproportionate regulations and I cannot call many of them irrational. I am vaccinated but surely that is irrelevant for the argument.

We will get the invoice for Covid in a few years in any case.

I have lost a lot of faith in people and their ability to argue and this doesn't really stem from the anti-vaccination camp, far more this comes from people asking for restrictions.

[LudvigVanHassen]

All of these are reasonable arguments. I personally agree with them. I am vaccinated (J&J), and was vaccine hesitant for 6 months prior to making my decision. I still stand far more in unity with the anti-vaccination camp than those asking for restrictions.

Many in the "people asking for restrictions" camp will not see these arguments as reasonable because they don't comply with "the science" (which is actually a crafted narrative).

Part of the problem is that we aren't just dealing just with a morphing dataset being communicated very imperfectly across digital mediums to the entire globe. We have all of that, and then that already fantastically complicated scenario is being ham-fisted into a narrative, and the narrative trumps all the data.

[daddylongstroke]

Yes, what's troubling to me in this imperfect communication, is the media reporting "COVID deaths", as if they were "deaths of COVID", instead of "deaths with COVID". The spin is palpable, and completely unnecessary.