[giuliomagnifico]

Why would you want an iPhone with the headphones jack?! I dropped to the floor my iPhone two times: and both are due to the headphones jack cable!

I hope Apple will introduce a better codec for Bluetooth, way behind the actual AAC 256. But not the cable again…

[Hamuko]

Life is just so simple with a simple headphone jack.

Say you get a loaner car and you want to listen to music from your phone. You can either connect a 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable between your phone and the car and start playback, or you can go into the car settings, start bluetooth pairing, wait for the device to be found, pair the devices, make sure that your address book is not shared via Bluetooth and stored in the car's memory and then start playback (and probably remove the pairing from both ends at the end of it all).

[nexuist]

This experience sucks because the car sucks, not the phone. I have a $15 Bluetooth to FM transmitter that you just need to select on your phone's Bluetooth page to start playback (assuming you haven't paired before). No passcode or complicated process. Is this worth not having a cable? I'd say so, actually.

[Hamuko]

Wait, you can pair with the transmitter with no authentication? That sounds real bad.

[nexuist]

If someone is already paired to it then it won't let you pair so it's not really that bad. The worst that can happen is someone plays some stupid audio for the two seconds it takes me to lower the volume or pull the unit out of the power port.

[bjoli]

Because I lose my headphones about once a year, and a pair of$40 wiredheadphones delivers better audio than the apple ones. I listen to music mostly for work (I am an orchestra musician) and the extra fidelity i get from my current headphones (supra something something) is something I actually need. I have a pair of shitty BT headphones for podcasts and things like that.

The noise cancelling is nice, but I can live without it. For the record I have never dropped my phone due to the headphone jack.

[giuliomagnifico]

I’m also an audiophile and when I want to eat well I’m using an external DAC via lightning but I would never go back to cable.

If you lose your headphones is your problem, not Apple :-) what would absolutely be implemented is a better codec for hi res BT Audio but also if there is a jack I prefer to override the internet DAC with digital exit.

[bjoli]

I am not an audiophile. I just dont want to pay 7x for an experience that, for my use case, gives a worse result.

I lose my headphones often enough for it to be a problem, had they been $300+ (which they are, in sweden).

Me losing my head phones becomes apples problem, since other manufacturers give me better options. I want an iphone, but this shit about being "brave" and removing the 3.5mm jack makes me vomit a little in my mouth.

My colleagues that bought the airpods pro have started having battery life issues now. Changing the batteries at an apple store costs an eye-watering ~1000kr.

That is completely bollocks.

[gumby]

Apple is currently BT 5.0 across the board (phones, iPads, macs, AirPods, etc). I was hoping for 5.2 in yesterday’s hardware. (They announced hands free calling for MFI hearing aids earlier this year, which requires 5.2, so I thought the new hardware would be ready for it).

I don’t think you’ll see an improvement before next year.

[giuliomagnifico]

It’s not a revision trouble, is a codec trouble. You can have Bluetooth 8.2 but if Apple headphones and devices support only AAC256, there’s nothing much to do…