[ksaj]

If you are going out somewhere that would need a covid passport, you're going to need your wallet one way or other. So I think forgetting the paper that should already be in your wallet to be one of the weakest arguments yet.

And if they can afford to go to a place that would need the passport (restaurants, movies, et al) then they probably can also afford one of the 10 cents per page print shops you find all over the place.

So that particular argument doesn't fly. At least "taking time off work" has some merit, but even then you can schedule around it. Over the course of almost a year so far, you must have at least some time in there to do it.

So far in my work place, not one person has had to take time off due to illness from the shot. Sure there are people who do get ill from it, but it's a lot more rare than people make it out to be. Even in my friendship circle, only one person almost had to take time off, but inevitably didn't need to. A sore arm is nothing unless you're a professional bowler or whatever.

[verdverm]

What if we compare the arguments in this case with the arguments around voter ID laws?

[winkeltripel]

That's a great idea. The arguments against both are nearly identical, from my perspective.

There's a big difference in these scenarios, in that the argument FOR vaccine passports is much stronger, in that the vaccines provide some level of herd immunity. There is no evidence that voter fraud is occurring at high rates in the US to have voter ID barriers (the alleged purpose, though not the true one).

Intent also matters. The intent of vaccine passports is to reinforce the importance of herd immunity, to emphasize the legitimacy of the vaccines, and to protect frontline workers. The real intent of Voter ID laws (and voter roll purging, etc) is to disenfranchise. The intent taints the process, even if some of the components are reasonable (more options for valid photo-ID, more rigorous proof-of-residence rules, and more careful record keeping, etc).

[verdverm]

What if the arguments being made against each, rather than for, are compared?

Vaccine passports will likely require photo id to ensure you are the person with the vaccination record. If requiring IDs to vote disenfranchises a portion of the population, wouldn't requiring IDs for X have the same effect? In example, what happens to those who cannot get an ID due to immigration status or other reasons?

[seanmcdirmid]

In places that implement vaccine passports now, photo IDs aren't used. Rather QR codes on your phone are used. Check out https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2021/08/11/south-dakotan-livin...

But then again, some states are experimenting with digital IDs on your phone also (so you don't have to carry around your DL anymore).

[verdverm]

This is separate from the idea of comparing the arguments against requiring IDs from the cross product of { two camps X two applications }