[ceejayoz]

We've been quite comfortable with vaccine mandates for decades. My kids needed proof of MMR, DTaP, and several others to be able to attend school. Colleges have similar requirements. Hand washing is mandated "by government fiat" in many scenarios, as are quite a few other OHSA or public health scenarios - try working on a construction site without a hard hat, for example.

[josephcsible]

In 2019 or earlier, when have you had to show an ID and proof of vaccination to enter any building other than your own house? And for schools, didn't you used to have private schools or homeschooling as an option to avoid these kind of mandates? And hard hats aren't really comparable, since you can take them back off at the end of the workday.

[ceejayoz]

> In 2019 or earlier, when have you had to show an ID and proof of vaccination to enter any building other than your own house?

I live in upstate New York - one of the more aggressive states for COVID measures - and have not yet had to do this, a year and a half into the pandemic.

(I did, however, have to prove my vaccination status and present ID when I became a naturalized US citizen quite a few years ago. https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-...)

> And for schools, didn't you used to have private schools or homeschooling as an option to avoid these kind of mandates?

These still exist.

[josephcsible]

> These still exist.

But they don't get you out of the mandates anymore. Adults who already finished school used to never have to tell anyone their vaccination status to participate in society.

[ceejayoz]

Again, I literally had to prove my vaccination status to be allowed to stay in the US. In 2009… and I’ve yet to present my COVID card anywhere in upstate NY.

[pandaman]

Non-citizens do not have the right of citizens, you might have known already, but one can be denied the green card and/or not allowed into the country for having a communicable disease like AIDS or TB. If I follow your logic, it's okay to have AIDS, TB, leprosy, etc. passports too?

[ceejayoz]

> If I follow your logic, it's okay to have AIDS, TB, leprosy, etc. passports too?

If they start spreading exponentially via aerosols, sure.

[URSpider94]

Not entirely true. Certain classes of jobs, like working in health care, have always mandated vaccination. Additionally, when most vaccines are given in childhood, making sure everyone is vaccinated in grade school has the effect of ensuring that most adults are vaccinated. No need to keep re-checking throughout life.

[rejectedandsad]

I’m referring to masks. Mandating vaccines is fine and good.

[shapefrog]

So you are ok with injecting things into peoples bodies, by force.

But covering the nose and mouth, when around others, is beyond the pale?

[rejectedandsad]

Yes, because I’ve gotten vaccinated and I shouldn’t be continued to be punished with restrictions.