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by glangdale 1747 days ago
Speaking from experience, people are not nearly as enthusiastic to make the decision to kill themselves (as dementia sets in) as every likes to imagine that they will be themselves. I have seen multiple cases of people who - in healthy middle age - made bold statements ("just shoot me when I get like that"), who later went on to write documents insisting that "all measures be taken to preserve my life". So not even "just let me die peacefully when it's my time", much less "load me up on opiates and finish me off in a month when I don't know who/where I am anymore".

I don't know why this is, but dementia is often a continuum, and the decision making that people make seems to change in early dementia.

Unless you are proposing that others get to make this executive decision that people with dementias lives aren't worth living, this solution is not practical.

More practical would be to accept that we are far better off over-medicating with pain meds to "keep people comfortable" with the implicit idea that it will shorten their lives. Everyone can pretend we're doing it for pain. Effectively it's like what you said but with some face-saving bullshit where no-one has to admit we're killing grandpa/grandma over the course of a few months. I'd much rather a few months on opiates at the end of my life than a few years on Haldol (JFC). Ugh.

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“I don't know why this is, but dementia is often a continuum, and the decision making that people make seems to change in early dementia.“

Is it really demented thinking to want to avoid approaching death? I am there right now with my mom, and if she wants to press on, who am I to argue?

Agreed. I think people change their minds about how bad life would be if you can't function at a high level. A good deal of this is pride.

On Monday I will be an Intel Principal engineer again - but there's some Monday where I may need someone else's help to get the shit off my bum. From the perspective of that next Monday the indignity of the latter one is astonishing and humiliating, but there will be many intermediate stages where I get used to the idea that I am not what I was and to see that life is still quite pleasant.

"More practical would be to accept that we are far better off over-medicating with pain meds to "keep people comfortable" with the implicit idea that it will shorten their lives."

If it's reasonably certain that I will die soon or there is no chance for recovery I would like to try all kinds of drugs like heroin, cocaine and others. Why stay sober?

> I don't know why this is, but dementia is often a continuum, and the decision making that people make seems to change in early dementia.

More likely it is that theoretical death sometime in the future is something much different then real death sometime soon. Which is much different to actually doing it and following up.

The exact same thing happens in physical danger situations. People are brave and daring and when faced with actual situation, the start making real decision differently.