[Zababa]

> IIRC the actual level of change we need to achieve long-term stability is something like 99%-99.9% reduction

This is impossible to attain though.

[ben_w]

Perhaps, perhaps not. I’m optimistic.

Also: while I wasn’t thinking of this when I wrote the previous post, if carbon capture powered by non-fossil sources turned out to be useful (but not so useful to give us the exact opposite problem), that’s still a success.

[convolvatron]

not impossible at all. we just have to wait for the oncoming economic collapse, famine and mass migration. the great part of this whole thing is that the more we double down on the systems that brought us here, the more they will be undermined.

I wish people would stop pretending we have a choice to do nothing because the whole thing is just going to be too inconvenient.

[Zababa]

> I wish people would stop pretending we have a choice to do nothing because the whole thing is just going to be too inconvenient.

But we do? There's no pretension here, no action is always a choice. That doesn't mean that we will be free from the consequences of course. I think many people are betting, consciously or not, on the fact that we can keep going like this until the day they die and then they won't have to care about the consequences.

[EvilEy3]

> we just have to wait for the oncoming economic collapse, famine and mass migration. the great part of this whole thing is that the more we double down on the systems that brought us here, the more they will be undermined

Uhuh, we just need to wait until you stop reading dystopian books and will leave your basement.

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