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by steverb 1737 days ago
You're forgetting about driver's licenses, pilots licenses, cosmetology licenses, ID requirements and searches to fly on a plane, having to be over 21 to buy alcohol and tobacco, selective service, income taxes, property taxes, traffic laws, building codes...
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landemva 1736 days ago
Most of those examples do not apply to persons who are not engaged in commerce.

21+ to buy products should be 18. At some age children become adults.

Study the personal income tax and you will find it is primarily enforced through your employer. If each of us had to save and write a check there would be little compliance.

For non-commercial property, if the property is not cataloged by county assessor, it doesn't get taxed. Dig in on this bit and be amazed.

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steverb 1736 days ago
Driver's Licenses and the need to show ID and submit to a search certainly do apply.

I and a lot of people do have to save a write a check (I pre-pay estimated actually). You do not want to get on the wrong side of the IRS.

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landemva 1736 days ago
Did government go to your door and make you sign the contract of non-commercial driver license? Or did you go to a government office and volunteer? This was litigated at USSC decades ago.

Federal personal income tax does generally apply to federal government employees. When a non-govt employer withholds from your paycheck it does become difficult to then get out of volunteering to pay.

Are you a commercial driver and also federal employee? Or like most people do you shuffle in to the lines to voluntarily contribute?

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steverb 1735 days ago
Vaccination requirements were also litigated at USSC, over a century ago: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-ma...

I am an independent software developer and like most business owners I contribute because it's required by law and failure to do so carries harsh penalties.

Are you telling me that you do not pay federal and or state income taxes? That you do not contribute to FICA? Are you under the impression that because you are not a federal employee that you are not required to pay federal income taxes?

If so, the IRS has plenty to say about it: https://www.irs.gov/privacy-disclosure/the-truth-about-frivo...

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landemva 1735 days ago
Structure your affairs correctly so you do not become a taxpayer (federal income tax) and no need to file. Definitely do not file, as they use the signed form against you and they call it frivolous and add penalties.

This initially takes effort.

Still pay sales tax, use tax, TSA groping tax, etc.

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