[bussiere]

It's not a differente take it's a wrong take on french hisory :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puy_du_Fou#Une_vision_orient%C...

And a wrong take that try to push a political agenda.

It's a fun park but don't take history lesson history here are more that political oriented legends.

They are like history channel ...

[fredros]

At French school we a were taught wrong takes when it comes to history (less so, of course)

It’s mainly the history from a « républicain » point of view. Also served with a blatant pro European federalism take.

Nothing wrong per se, but we should have a critical view on what we were fed with.

[sam_lowry_]

The mere fact that French Revolution can be told from the point of view of loosers is a revelation to many French.

The value of Puy du Fou is in the teaching of pluralism while being hightly entertaing in the process.

[WastingMyTime89]

> The mere fact that French Revolution can be told from the point of view of losers is a revelation to many French.

The French Revolution is always told from the point of view of losers. Most of its most prominent actors ended losing at some point and the whole thing ends with an epuration followed by a military coup.

The myth surrounding the Revolution has little to do with who won or lost. Like most of what the French view as their history, it is a construction dating from the rise of nationalism at the end of the 19th century.

[cm2187]

Actually probably more than nationalism, marxism theorised the french revolution as one of the key step of the march to socialism (the bourgeois overthrowing the feudal system, that was meant to be followed by the workers overthrowing the bourgeois system). I suspect this had more influence than nationalism on the school history books of the last 50 years.

[bussiere]

It's not pluralism when it's false facts.

There are science and facts. You can't teach false facts to people.

[sam_lowry_]

The Wikipedia section you referenced above is not about facts, it's a collection of vague complaints.

Note that I never said that Puy do Fou presents the true facts. But the attacks of French historians on Puy du Fou I saw so far are not based on facts at all.

[tasogare]

> You can't teach false facts to people.

Then why are history books filled with false facts? And that's in the case the government didn't decided to suppress history classes altogether, as it might make people think (I'm referencing the deletion of history classes in scientific high shool section). Paille et poutre...

[ptidhomme]

I'm not sure you can say there is a "right" or a "wrong" take on history. Rather, different focus and interpretation.

[sofixa]

What? You should be sure, it's just basic common sense. Facts are facts, and almost everything is nuanced, but for instance claiming that the Holocaust didn't happen, the French did nothing in WWI, or that the Nazis were socialists are entirely factually wrong takes.

[bussiere]

There are true facts and false facts.

Even right wing historians find the orientation of the puy du fou wrong.

Ainsi, comme le soulignent Jean-Clément Martin, historien spécialiste de la Révolution française, de la Contre-révolution et de la guerre de Vendée, et Valérie Sottocasa, maître de conférences en histoire moderne à l'université Toulouse-Jean-Jaurès, le spectacle, « d'emblée militant et symbolique »12 exalte « le mythe d'un âge d'or durant lequel nobles et gens du peuple étaient soudés par un même idéal communautaire »11 mais « qui a servi jusqu'à nos jours à consolider une culture politique dont témoignent les commémorations du Puy du Fou, sans doute les plus spectaculaires du genre11 ». La mobilisation des populations locales dans le cadre d'« une association défendant les valeurs de la famille et de la tradition » s'inscrit dans ce cadre : il s'agit de « populariser une idée de l'histoire de France teintée de Contre-Révolution »13, comme le montrent en outre dans les années 1980 et 1990 les thématiques des colloques qui s'y déroulent ou l'utilisation de la venue d'Alexandre Soljenitsyne. Jean-Clément Martin et Charles Suaud font remarquer en outre que le spectacle de la Cinéscénie dépeint une société paysanne vendéenne faussement uniforme « privée de ses contradictions internes, soumise aux aléas des saisons et des traumatismes extérieurs », occultant à la fois les affrontements ayant eu lieu en Vendée entre catholiques et protestants pendant les guerres de religion et les rapports de domination économique et sociale13.

[sam_lowry_]

Between the mumbling of Jean-Clément Martin and the visual feast presented by Puy du Fou, I prefer the later.

No wonder Jean-Clément Martin*s* of the world are angry.

[bussiere]

If a made a super show where elvis and the big foot came to help the french revolution with some Grey Extra terrestrial it doesn't make true facts on history.

[enriquto]

That would make an awesome theme park, though.

[toyg]

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[sam_lowry_]

As @ptidhomme noticed earlier, history is not a sequence of truisms that we assumed to memorize in school.

[user-the-name]

"I prefer spectacle over truth" is, I must say, a spectacularly bad take.

[raxxorrax]

To be fair, it is quite solid for a theme park.

It may be conductive to have some legends even if that stuff doesn't fly with your history teacher.

[lm28469]

As long as you don't pretend they're actual facts it's all good. When you try to muddy the line between history and fantasy it's another story. fyi their slogan is "History awaits you" ...

[sam_lowry_]

I think your outsized negative reaction is due to the fact that Puy du Fou does a better job popularizing history than your average French history teacher.

That they take a slightly different view at historical events is ever more outrageous, but it only shows how one-sided and politicized history education is in France.

FYI, I am an outsider not really interested in French politics, just happened to leave in a nearby country.

[user-the-name]

I can guarantee you, it is not. This is 100% about what you just said and 0% about French history teachers, of whom I've met none, or Puy du Fou, which I had never heard of before these posts.