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by corpo_punisho 1750 days ago
The only alternative to religious thinking is misery? That sounds very much like religion insisting upon itself, like when they claim that without the fear of god we would all be savage and immoral. It's nonsense, really.

But there were a few absurd reductions in what you said, including the idea that the prevention of suffering is tenable yet somehow nihilistic.

Would it not be more sustainable to focus on spreading joy instead of preventing suffering? That way you won't drive yourself crazy focusing on the negative aspects of humanity.

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Or any other philosophy, where nihilism is the absence of either.

In other words, religion is wonderful for those for whom it works; the same goes for existentialism (our meaning comes from within) or really literally anything else that gets you through the day.

Every morning we wake up and the vast majority of us decide to not jump off a tall building. Why?

For various reasons. But without our individual reason, the alternative is not misery. We can come up with other reasons. Or just do without reason (such as when we satisfy natural drives).
People growing up indoctrinated in a religion are way more prone to having problem with meaning of life.

They grow up having meaning of life, and all the rules to follow to get to the better place. You don't think you just follow.

When you break out of shackles of religion you are faced with reality, you are responsible for finding the meaning, you are responsible for creating rules for your life and to follow them.

Its my pet peeve when I hear 'atheists are just lazy and left the religion because its easier'. When its the opposite. A godless person that understands that concept of god (more precisely any god that people claim exists and talked to them via various means) doesn't make sense, is burdened with all complexity of life without mental shortcuts religion provides.

All that said, de-converting into atheistism doesn't automatically translate into lifelong misery.