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Men today not should be denied support that other groups have today because men in the 1950s had support that other groups in the 1950s did not have.

The original article explicitly addresses this.

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Just saying thats not answering the question, guys today have so much more, except for more severe inequality over their counterparts.

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The question is fully answered. Men today are no less deserving of support than anyone else. They deserve the same support that other groups have today.

If you read the article you’ll see that men do not have the same support that other groups have, and proposals to provide that support are rejected on the basis of history rather than present need.

The desire ‘not to help white men’ is explicitly mentioned.

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yea totally changed my mind, it does sound like things just aren't fair and the other "groups" have it better while the white man "deserves" it's fair share. Should we start a group or what? Which other group should we target first to get the "support" that we need?

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Your response is dripping with sarcasm. Why do you have such hatred of white men in particular?

Also, why are you making this about race? The basis of the article was about how men are not getting the support they need. Why do you keep bringing “white men” into it?

All we’re taking about is recognizing that there are support services provided to women which are not provided to men, and there is no reason that men shouldn’t also need such services.

These are simply facts stated in the article.

What have you got against men that makes you want to deny them the same services as women?

Is it your opinion that white men, or men in general are somehow less deserving than young women? Or perhaps you think young men are inherently superior to women and therefore don’t have the same needs.

It’s not clear which it is. Only you can tell us.

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You are making a lot of huge jumps there, incorrectly, (except for the sarcasm, completely on point), and you asked like 5 questions.

Everyone should get support! More support! Everyone. By focusing on men, you are stating it is MORE challenging for men. It is not. Men should get more support, so should everyone, but if we are handing out bread, men should be last to receive, as our plate is the fullest. Do you really think men have it worse? I don't, being a guy is super great, much easier, and complaining about it just makes you seem like you lack perspective. Only you can tell us.

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> You are making a lot of huge jumps there, incorrectly,

If that was true, you’d be able to quote one.

> (except for the sarcasm, completely on point)

Can you explain what is behind your sarcasm?

> and you asked like 5 questions.

I did!

> Everyone should get support! More support! Everyone.

> By focusing on men,

The article we are discussion is focussed on men. That is why we are focusing on men.

> you are stating it is MORE challenging for men.

I think that’s just an assumption of yours. If you can find something I’ve said that implies that, you can quote it. And we can discuss it.

> Men should get more support, so should everyone, but if we are handing out bread, men should be last to receive, as our plate is the fullest.

Even if this were true, it’s not what we are discussing. The article states that men are not receiving the same level of support as everyone else.

You have not explained why that should be the case.

Are you a college age man?

> Do you really think men have it worse?

The article states that men have it worse in terms of support on campus.

> I don't,

You don’t think the article says this?

> being a guy is super great, much easier,

How do you know? Are you a college age man?

> and complaining about it just makes you seem like you lack perspective.

Who is complaining about being a man?

> Only you can tell us.

We are discussing the resources available to college students and I am arguing that men should receive the same supports as everyone else.

It’s still not clear what you are contributing with sarcastic and generic statements about men, or white men in particular.

Your points don’t seem relevant to the discussion of college, but to some more general ideas you have about how great it is to be a man.