[the_third_wave]

The subject is dear to heart for many, if not most people who frequent HN. Boghossian is a well-known author in this context who was instrumental in bringing these issues up for discussion outside of academia. He was the last of the authors of the grievance studies hoax articles who was still employed in academia so his resignation is sort of a milestone, in what direction remains to be seen. The discussions around these issues often do end up in polarised factional disputes but that is part and parcel of the problem and not something which can be avoided by not discussing it in the first place.

For me the desired outcome of these discussions is that those who have been supportive of the introduction of indentitarian policies in academia realise the deleterious effects these have on institutional and, lately, societal cohesion - more or less in the same way that Marxists in the 20's of the previous century started to realise that the Soviet Union did not develop into the workers and farmers paradise they were told it would. This can only happen if the subject can be discussed in those places where it matters, in other words in places frequented by people who have been part of or are still part of academia. HN is one of those places.

[edmundsauto]

Fair perspective, I grant you. I just don’t think it’s particularly well suited to the HN that I want to see. It seems more fitting for a philosophy board than a startup/technology board.

I do realize that politics is sometimes ok on Hn. I’m just saying I think that degrades the quality of the forum, and dilutes the topics I prefer.

Each unto their own.

[the_third_wave]

> I just don’t think it’s particularly well suited to the HN that I want to see. It seems more fitting for a philosophy board than a startup/technology board.

Had the problem been limited to academia - and, more specifically, the humanities - I would have concurred. Now that it escaped out into the wild where it is wreaking havoc with societal institutions and commercial entities it has become something which directly concerns the areas of interest for this board and as such should be dealt with.

One of the best ways for dealing with these authoritarians is for people to just say "no, I will not be bullied into submission". As long as there are only a few people doing so they can be singled out, demonised and de-platformed by the authoritarian 'new puritans' but this becomes ineffective in the face of growing resistance. Once they can no longer scare people into submission they will lose their power, once they lose power the problems they created can be dealt with and true academic freedom can return. Once true academic freedom returns there will still be space in academia for critical theory and related 'grievance studies' [1] but they will no longer be able to force their ideologies upon the institutions.

Resistance is not futile, we will not be assimilated.

[1] ...although I suspect they will not be able to find enough funding to keep going nor will there be many employment opportunities for those with a degree in one of these fields - which will eventually lead to their demise.