[shevy]

One thing I dont understand is

print word

where does "word" come from?

Anyway, this setup is in no way different to ruby's super

super("foo") super("bar")

I really fail to see the point here. What is different? I simply do not see what the python example shows "a bit more clearly" here. I dont even get where "word" comes from.

Besides, "monkeypatching" is a deragotary term invented by pythonistas who do not understand Ruby or think that by adding complexity you can feel "meta" programming so clearly. In my opinion the metaprogramming demanding people are wanking hippos that continually feel a need to add needless and useless complexity on top of problems and in situations where there simply should not be any of that.

Both ruby and python are way to complicated. Can you believe this? At the same time, both are a LOT more elegant than languages like perl or php. Perl 6 still has not managed to get rid of the useless ; at line ends. They managed to eliminate () around if's.

Wow. I am soooo impressed. In 100 more years Perl 7 will be THE best language arrr!!!

But it is a shame that there are not more good languagesl ike ruby or python, because in fact there simply are not that many good languages existing anyway. It takes so much effort to grow a language....

And yes - both ruby and python are very good languages. The fact that there are idiots using the language who have a loud mouth badmouthing either of these two decent languages is annoying, but one can not do much about it.

For everyone else I recommend reading the "why it does not matter" blog. It really summarizes a lot of why ruby and python fill a very similar ecosystem, behaving like rivals who continually try to point out how incredibly stupid the other language is.

Grow up. Use what you prefer, and end this stupid war.

[icky]

> One thing I dont understand is

> print word

> where does "word" come from?

    >>  def Monkey(word):
    >>        class _Monkey(object):
    >>            def shout(self):
    >>                print word
    >>        return _Monkey

Note that Monkey is a function that takes a parameter word. So every invocation of Monkey creates a class that will always .shout() the parameter word.

> Anyway, this setup is in no way different to ruby's super

> super("foo") super("bar")

No.

    >>    class Chimp(Monkey("foo")):
    >>        pass
    
    >>    class Gorilla(Monkey("bar")):
    >>        pass

You'll note that these two class definitions create a class Chimp that's descended from a class like _SomeMonkeyThatSaysFoo, and a class Gorilla that's descended from a class like _SomeMonkeyThatSaysBar.

That is what the parent poster has challenged anyone to reproduce in Ruby.

> Grow up. Use what you prefer, and end this stupid war.

Programming language wars are at least as old as the Internet, so the admonition to "Grow up" hold no water in this case.

I could quite reasonably parody your closing statement as: "Grow up. So who cares whether a hammer or celery makes a better tool? Just leave us alone, hammer-users."