[jstummbillig]

If you chose to flat out disable JS in 2021 (by all means, go for it), understand that you are the Amish of the Internet -- so, please, behave like the Amish of the Internet. Be cool with the consequences of your deliberate choice. Do not expect other people to work around you or, worse, resent them for not doing so.

This is not to say that JS isn't being abused a lot -- but then again, it's soft tech, it's the internet and the abuse comes at little cost (compared to most industries). I always thought it's a huge part of what makes it fun and speeds all progress along like crazy.

[turminal]

No.

Calling someone Amish of the internet because they refuse to be tracked, refuse to take part in voluntary remote code execution or just do their computing on a computer from 2010 on a poor internet connection is just sad.

If you want to live in a world where everything is a SPA by all means go for it, but be prepared to be criticised for making a blog post or a news story that is literally a bunch of text paragraphs interleaved with images require Javascript.

Doing so is not progress.

[sgt]

Use Safari - anti tracking measures etc.

[turminal]

I don't see how locking myself into a walled garden would improve the situation.

[jstummbillig]

> If you want to live in a world where

Hi, this is World speaking.

You can pretend it's not me. That's a bit silly but oh well, it's hardly a contender for the most outrageous thing that happened around here today.

You can also chose to only partly partake in what's going on RIGHT NOW and be very cool with that decision. Like, oh I don't know, the Amish.

But this is what I am today. Please get real.

Your friend, World

[turminal]

You're just annoyed because people are complaining.

If you believe there's more to your point, please restate it in a less patronizing manner.

[jstummbillig]

I don't know turminal, that really doesn't sound like me.

Anyway, I thought I jotted my point(s) down quite amusingly, but oh well, hit and miss. Restated more plainly:

- I am acknowledging what the world is and where that leaves anyone disabling JS indiscriminately (sic) in 2021, solely because of the technology and not because of individual usage.

- I think it's important to acknowledge what the world is to have any serious discussion about the world. How about you?

- I made no statement about what I want the world to be. You have been inferring (wrongly, but, oh well, it barely matters)

- Being compared to the Amish is not "sad" to me and it's not meant to be offensive. What I think is sad is if you chose to be disconnected (like the Amish) but unclear that you are disconnected because of personal considerations (unlike the Amish) and then get angry at the thing you are disconnected from because it doesn't care about your personal considerations.

[antifa]

I suppose you also think condoms are for the amish?

Enjoy your 30MB js files and 4k autoplaying video ads that follow your scroll and jump around the screen.