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by burnished 1753 days ago
I see you are getting a lot of pushback and I think its unwarranted. I agree with you, the phrase is becoming tainted. I would like a way to differentiate between places that are wary of the whims of power and places where opinions are so appalling they can't be a part of polite society. We currently talk about them the same, and there has been an uptick of the latter recently that makes being able to differentiate more relevant.

As a side note its sort of interesting to me how your un-popular, perhaps controversial yet not particularly offensive opinion is going to be censored from this discussion in which people are opposing your perhaps reasonable association with the phrase 'resistant to censorship'. "how dare they voice a dissenting opinion!" they might tell themselves, as they press the little button that will make your words fade away.

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I'd rather say the wrong thing and have a discussion than say nothing and remain ignorant! I did appreciate the irony haha

Downvotes are kinda tedious but I understand the original idea behind them. Such is life :)

Can't reply to the entire wasps nest I kicked over but I've read, agreed, disagreed, learned. Decent result overall!

I gotta say thats something I really enjoy, being publicly wrong about something and getting educated, or some one else doing it for me and getting the chance to read some thoughtful stuff.

Normally I wouldn't consider downvotes to be worth mentioning, but I thought the irony here was special and worth observing :D

so, thanks!

I'm the asker of the original question, and I actually agree with you on a lot of this. As soon as I read @fragileone and @iotku's excellent answers to my question my heart sank a little at the thought of a site even more racist than YouTube. Almost every site that pops up claiming an anti-censorship position is quickly filled with pretty abhorrent content. Downvoting someone on HN for pointing it out doesn't make it untrue.
It gets filled with all kinds of content, of which racism and other far-right talk is merely the most visible part because it's in the spotlight. But it's not just far right that's getting "deplatformed". Even politically, there are plenty of leftist groups that were wiped out from e.g. Facebook during the recent purges. All those people also have to look for other platforms.
I'm not saying there aren't other valid uses, just that racism is pretty much guaranteed on a no-censorship site. It _should_ be something that we can all agree on as being "bad", even when dressed in its Sunday best from the likes of Jordan Peterson.
We can agree on it being bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to censor it, and especially so when such censorship has an already-demonstrated tendency to quickly expand in scope.
Uh, what are you even saying? That racism is so prevalent that it pops up everywhere naturally? And only censorship can fix it?
I'm open to the possibility of hearing Jordan Peterson saying something racist, but haven't in watching hours and hours of his videos. Please source.
When did Jordan Peterson ever discuss race?