[baryphonic]

Totally agree. I'm reluctant to join the Telegram thing because A) Telegram and B) I can't imagine a discussion going over any one of the Sacred Programming Opinion Landmines.

"I once used an ORM to get some work done and stuff, and it wasn't entirely awful" is probably worthy of excommunication or burning at the stake for heresy. More likely, just insults that I'm not a real professional or something. I get enough of that in my own head from time to time.